Imo they made this "slandering and agitating" rule to be able to ban people that set a boycott on a whole server. Like it happened on Inferna. People that were logging in were killed and because the boycott was legal at that time, nothing could be done about it. I was told that boycotts of this kind were often started by open tibia server owners who want to have more profit by making people quit normal Tibia. I noticed that a whole guild on Unitera has applied as testers for the flash client. They stated they were testers before... on open tibia servers. I mean... wtf... it is just unfortunate that this problem exists at all.
I know the theory, it is: Follow the botter for hours and make sure he doesn't get food by throwing coins on the falling bodies, when he has no mana anymore, lure on him or make him walk over fire.
I noticed a lot people stopped to buy premium because of the winter update, more than I would have predicted.
That is exactly what I cannot understand. Tibia is an RPG game, one that you are supposed to - if not roleplay your characther - at least cara for its skills and for what he is doing or not. Where is the fun of playing Tibia or any other RPG game if you are not the one playing your own characther?
2. Make botting seem unreasonable. How could we do such a thing? Obviously, botters bot because its easier to do so, they receive better exp etc. What if, suddenly, a mass of other players just happened to show up in the cave where the botter was botting for such a period of time that the botter barely received any experience. If this kept happening to botters all over the server, what impact would that have on them? Is it even worth it anymore? Also, if it is seen that someone is a botter then don't interact with them. Don't buy from them, sell to them or talk to them. I doubt this will have much of an impact on them, but who knows.
3. Police force. As already stated, this would be a more extreme measure taken on PvP servers. The point was brought up that the servers are ruled by botters so it'd be impossible to start an uprising against them. Maybe if it was more of an underground type police force, not an official guild. As such, if one person killed a bot then the botter and their buddies wouldn't know who else was in on it just by looking at the guild. This would take alot of organization and can be very dangerous.
4. Building up the community. I think besides eliminating the botters, its our duty to build up the community. If we achieve this, we may be able to out number the botters after a period of time. Being the majority player base of Tibia's players and replacing the number of botters may get Cipsoft to listen to us. How do we build up the community? I think making a guild or just a group of people dedicated to improving their servers will do enough. Have an event planner, have those who work towards tutor status and consistantly work to help out others etc. Make the server feel alive and welcoming, especially to new players.
5. Improve the game. I think there's a general consensus on certain mechanics that aren't working. Starting proposals that are well written, outline why the mechanic is not working, how to fix it, and why this would be in Cipsoft's interest, is a good start. Start honing your "persuasive essay" skills and get ready to write some speeches. After writing them, we can't let them be buried on the proposal forums. We need to support them and keep them up long enough to get some attention.
Hum what makes you think botters write the bots themselves? They buy the bots from a companylike entity.
Just google "tibia bot" and you'll find their websites and forums. They even give themselves company names that sound "serious". Polish kids often are called "neokids" by other Polish players after the bot they use the most. The people that make those bots seem to make a living with it and same for some of the people that host open tibia servers. Even Tibiacast makes money with premium accounts. We had highlevels on our server that made a living with selling ingame gold for rl money. There are not enough people anymore that play just for fun.
Yikes, I didn't know alot of people actually bought gold on Tibia. (I should know better considering how much money people lay down for games like Farmville on Facebook.) I guess that's how long I've been gone. Since they're making money off of it, it may be more difficult to get botters to stop but I feel that if we can get enough support it will be possible.
I think it's easiest to get support for stealing from botters by the "coin on corpse" method, since players can make profit with it.
Blamina wrote:Chazys, check the Harmonia world board. Loads of threads are complaints about botting. Some of those threads were made by people that are known botters. They still bot. They write on forum that other people bot. What community are you talking about. Where is that community?
Blamina wrote:I don't speak the languages needed to do that rook thing successfully on European servers. I have a rookstayer. The people I talked with until today are either other rookstayers, guildies or friends of me or of guildies or people from other servers. Okay I have seen some trade messages: level 2 asking to buy a katana for example. And I can talk like a waterfall.
All my projects to give noobset on main to nice people failed. They either quit and sent me the stuff back, or quit and sent me nothing back, or asked for more and more and more and turned out to be not nice at all. I still give noobset to people because it's fun. But it doesn't change the community to the better.
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