Once more: Update stuff edited! It's a tradition now...

[Redshrike]

This thread was originially to push my proposal on the Tibia boards, which included a few updated graphics. Community involvement in Tibia is, however, completely dead and thus they no longer accept graphics from the community. Thus, this thread will just be to show off remade itens that I may make for fun.
Old proposal at:
http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action=th ... d=15535191

The center is newer, the left older.

Dwarf axe, which was edited from the outline of the original.

[Piedoke]

Dude I love your Royal Axe, it's the best axe I've ever seen.
The other one doesn't look great, really dislike it but I think the bright sword should stay the same.. fire sword aswell. Don't know why tho, I feel em like old skool items and they are the rox. xD

[Redshrike]

Thanks man! Axes aren't really my specialty, but I'm glad you like it; the reason I wanted to redo the old one is that it's an edit of the original Heroic Axe by Izuael; if you put them side to side you can see how rushed it was, too. I've also heard that a lot about the brightsword, and I can understand why you'd want to keep them in, too; I just find it fun to update stuff.

[Zofurie]

Well your bright sword isn't really "bright"'.

Anyway, the wyvern fang is fine the way it is now imo but I love the taurus mace Keep it up! (I saw Izuael also made a comment )

[hehehe]

i like the new wyvern fang

[Luheguf]

not to be rude, but the only one that looks ok/implementable is the wyvern fang, the others are well, not suitable for tibia. Taurus mace is meant to look like, well a Taurus, yours however, does not, just a "Horn Club"? Theres no skull in it, the bright sword is just a lousy edit to a Crimson Sword, and the royal axe looks like a cartoon.

[FlameThrower]

Here are a few suggestions and tips.

First of all, if you really wanted to make Tibia's graphics better, start from the bad ones. Aside from the (these are the original ones) bright sword, the other three old graphics weren't "that" bad. There are way too many old graphics that should be updated by now, but CIP seems to not care too much about graphics so I don't know what tehy're doign. And although many of the old graphics don't need drastic changes to raise their "beauty" percentage, CIP just doesn't care or doesn't take action.

Now to the comments on your graphic changes.

Taurus Mace: Overall it is better tahn the old one. You should have kept the skull though, I really thought the skull was important. If you look closely at the old graphic, the skull is the main thing of the item. It's a mace made out of a Taurus head. The reason why your graphics is better than teh old graphic is that it actually looks like a club. With a brown color and a more mace like look, you're really, once again, looks more like a club. The old one looked more like an axe than a club. Add the skull back in and it'll look wonderful.

Wyvern Fang: I didn't really like your new graphic for the Wyvern Fang, easily and mainly because your new graphics looks like a katar and not a sword. Plus I don't see why the color should br brown, but then again why should it be red? Maybe white, cause Fangs = teeth = white?

Royal Axe: Your new royal axe only rated slightly higher than the old graphic IMO, mainly because the old royal axe didn't even look that bad. Some good and bads about your royal axe. Goods are that it looks like an axe. The old one just looked like some wierd blade. If we looked closely on it, you'll wonder how the heck is someone supposed to wield something like that. You don't even have space to hold it properly without your hands getting cut by the blade. Your new version gave it a handle, good job. Your blades are smaller and more likely to appear on a real axe. The old royal axe's blades were WAY too large, that it would simply be inpratical. Bads are that your blade looks dwarven. I'm not sure if that really should be bad, sicne I don't know the axe's history, but unless it was forged by dwarves, I suggest getting rid of the dwarfish look. The carvings and the gold, and silver makes it look dwarfish.

Bright Sword: Your best graphic among the four, simply because the old graphic looked too darn ugly. I suggest making the blade a little longer, and make it look like it's glowing blue.

[Redshrike]

I thank you all for the comments! For a few responses:
On the Taurus mace, it is, in fact, a skull-onna-stick; in fact, it's shaped and colored far more like a true cow skull than the one ingame; however, it ended up too dark and with not enough contrast. I was actually going to redo that one before I made the proposal, but I was too lazy...
For the Wyvern Fang, I chose a darker brown more because, while the original was brown, it was so washed out and without contrast that it ended up not living up to its potential; also, I was making it for WoT, which has a much darker background. I don't exactly see how you see a katar in it; it does have a straight handle and a curved edge.
On the Royal Axe, you'll notice that the original is really a bad edit of Izuael's (think it was his, I've been wrong before tho) original Heroic Axe. The head has been moved down, mirrored and had the bottom pasted on the top badly, but the parts of it that are good are the remnants of Izu's work.
For the brightsword, no, it's not an edit of the Crimson Sword; I've heard it's not bright enough several times so far, so I may go ahead and edit it...

Once again, thanks for all comments, please keep them coming, and I'll try and edit them accordingly...

[Daget]

I do enjoy these wonderful graphics. I like to try to make weapons too but they never turn otu as great as yours. keep up the great work man.

Also I found to really see the true beauty of these weapons you should copy the image paste on paint and zoom times 2 to get a better look at these works of art.

[Redshrike]

Thanks Daget!
Anyway, I made updates to all of them, it's in the first post. Better? Worse? Same?

[Deltic]

I think the middle row are all fantastic.

Except the Bright Sword I think they should all be implented as the new ones.

For the BS though, not that your's are worse then the actual bs. But more of the fact the bs is th bs. I love old graphics and the bs are one of the few weapons that haven't been changed. Plus still able to get. my opinion.

[Rat]

I like all of them in the middle row, however I think the mace could use a little more contrast or be a little lighter.

I kind of agree about the bright sword nostalgia, though I also like your sprite >_>

[James Mac'Mannus]

Okkz.

Though I can see youre truly quite talented as an artist, im not convinced that editing newly ingame items will do alot for your chances of getting them ingame.

But.. For the Sprites.

Taurus Mace.
Pretty Good, Though as others have said, the first is better, and that it could do with just a little more to make it seem skull-like, the appearance of some teeth or the shell of where the nose was would help that.

Wyvern Fang.
Again, the first is much better.
Why?
Because it looks like a fang, the one issue I have with the ingame sprite (pretty as it is) is that it doesnt LOOK like a fang, whereas your first could easily have been ripped from a giant beasts gums, nice one.

Royal Axe.
Again, its a good sprite.
Personally though, its not quite the sprite that royal axe needs, and its a little... hmm... "cartoony".
The ingame sprite really needs changing (because it looks like a bat with a stick stuck so far where the sun dont shine, that it sticks out of its mouth...).
But really I think you need to go back to the start with this one.

Bright Sword.
I couldnt part with the old sprite, its just lovely <3 £>
Though your new sprite is good, it doesnt fit the bright sword for me, the bs should be upright, and doesnt REALLY need changing.



Ok, for some ADVICE.
If you want CIP to really (seriously) consider implementing your sprites, you need to pick items that are actually PAINFULLY UGLY ingame.

Since you seem so talented, how about attempting these ones for us all to see?
Scale armor
Steel boots
Machete
Red/Blue Roses
Rope

To my mind, these are sprites which are really painful, and could do with new sprites quite urgently.

You can do it

James

[Redshrike]

Well, I don't think they'll seriously consider my proposal no matter what I do; thanks for the feedback, though! I have been asking for requests in the thread on Tibia forums, so your suggestions are coming at the perfect time! I'll do some once I get some time.

[James Mac'Mannus]

If the sprites are good enough, and it saves their designers the effort, it would be stupid to pay people to do what they can get (better?) for free.

Btw, If youd ever wanna chat in msn, send me a pm.
Or you could login solera and message me =p